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Humpback whales are crashing orca hunts – seemingly driven by an instinct to rescue other animals.

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  • Coach Pāṇini ®P Coach Pāṇini ®

    This isn’t a fluke. In a study of 115 documented cases, scientists observed humpbacks confronting orcas during hunts – and in nearly 90% of those cases, the humpbacks disrupted the attack. Even more surprising? Many of the animals they protected weren’t even their own kind.

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    @paninid

    Do orcas ever eat baby whales?

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      @paninid

      Do orcas ever eat baby whales?

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      @futurebird @paninid yes.
      "Orcas also prey on larger species such as sperm whales, grey whales, humpback whales and minke whales.[84][41] On three separate occasions in 2019 orcas were recorded to have killed blue whales off the south coast of Western Australia, including an estimated 18–22-meter (59–72 ft) individual.[89] Large whales require much effort and coordination to kill and orcas often target calves."
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orca#Mammals_and_birds

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      • Coach Pāṇini ®P Coach Pāṇini ®

        Humpback whales are crashing orca hunts – seemingly driven by an instinct to rescue other animals.

        It’s one of the ocean’s most unexpected mysteries: a seal is being hunted by a pod of killer whales… when out of nowhere, two humpback whales rush in, trumpeting, massive, and seemingly determined to stop the kill.

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        @paninid

        The orca looks so shocked in the photo "can't do ANYTHING in this ocean"

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          @paninid

          Do orcas ever eat baby whales?

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          @futurebird @paninid Here in the Monterey Bay (California) we have a lot of Orcas and a lot of true whales such as Greys (which migrate past the bay twice a year) humpbacks (which seem ever-present), blues on occasion. And lots and lots of seals and sea lions and otters, etc. (The Monterey Bay is an amazing place for sea life. And from the shore one can often see whales spouting or their heads and flukes.)

          The grays, which are relatively small compared to humbacks, swim on courses intended to avoid the Orcas.

          Orcas seem to be rather mean critters - I hear that they attack (and presumably eat) the great white sharks around here.

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            @paninid

            The orca looks so shocked in the photo "can't do ANYTHING in this ocean"

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            @futurebird it likely is AI. The original article has no such image https://archive.is/WfXpG

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @paninid

              Do orcas ever eat baby whales?

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              @futurebird @paninid

              I saw a documentary once about orcas attacking a mother whale (likely a humpback but not sure) en route with her calve. She tried to shield it from them but she was finally exhausted and the calve was to slow to escape.
              It was heartbreaking to see how she had to abandon her child.

              The theory at Wikipedia about their ancient predator-prey-history is interesting:

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              • Karl AuerbachK Karl Auerbach

                @futurebird @paninid Here in the Monterey Bay (California) we have a lot of Orcas and a lot of true whales such as Greys (which migrate past the bay twice a year) humpbacks (which seem ever-present), blues on occasion. And lots and lots of seals and sea lions and otters, etc. (The Monterey Bay is an amazing place for sea life. And from the shore one can often see whales spouting or their heads and flukes.)

                The grays, which are relatively small compared to humbacks, swim on courses intended to avoid the Orcas.

                Orcas seem to be rather mean critters - I hear that they attack (and presumably eat) the great white sharks around here.

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                @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                orcas ram great whites until the great whites are upside down

                this induces a tonic immobility, the sharks freeze in a trance. "drowning" the shark as water doesn't pass over their gills anymore

                then they eat the liver, exposed from the violent ramming

                after an orca shows up, great whites will completely scatter

                one shark was apparently so scared it fled from california to hawaii

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                • Ben Royce 🇺🇦B Ben Royce 🇺🇦

                  @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                  orcas ram great whites until the great whites are upside down

                  this induces a tonic immobility, the sharks freeze in a trance. "drowning" the shark as water doesn't pass over their gills anymore

                  then they eat the liver, exposed from the violent ramming

                  after an orca shows up, great whites will completely scatter

                  one shark was apparently so scared it fled from california to hawaii

                  Link Preview Image
                  Great white shark - Wikipedia

                  favicon

                  (en.wikipedia.org)

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                  @benroyce @futurebird @paninid Thanks for that info.

                  In my mind it raised the image of chained Prometheus, but rather than an eagle devouring his liver every day it was an orca.

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                  • Karl AuerbachK Karl Auerbach

                    @benroyce @futurebird @paninid Thanks for that info.

                    In my mind it raised the image of chained Prometheus, but rather than an eagle devouring his liver every day it was an orca.

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                    @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                    yes!

                    and it's striking to me that we have this image of the great white shark as amongst the fiercest of predators, and massive, a ruler of the seas

                    and yet we have this other creature that treats them like squeaky toys

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                    • Ben Royce 🇺🇦B Ben Royce 🇺🇦

                      @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                      yes!

                      and it's striking to me that we have this image of the great white shark as amongst the fiercest of predators, and massive, a ruler of the seas

                      and yet we have this other creature that treats them like squeaky toys

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                      @benroyce @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                      At least the great whites don’t start suffer the indignity of being treated like orca apparently treat salmon.. as a hat

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                      • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                        @benroyce @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                        At least the great whites don’t start suffer the indignity of being treated like orca apparently treat salmon.. as a hat

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                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                        i'm also reminded of that video of orcas throwing around a baby seal, still alive at one point but probably not for long, like throwing a baseball to one another, almost like a competition: who can throw this thing higher and farther

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                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                          i'm also reminded of that video of orcas throwing around a baby seal, still alive at one point but probably not for long, like throwing a baseball to one another, almost like a competition: who can throw this thing higher and farther

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                          @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @paninid

                          Sea cats. They are sea cats.

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                          • Ben Royce 🇺🇦B Ben Royce 🇺🇦

                            @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                            i'm also reminded of that video of orcas throwing around a baby seal, still alive at one point but probably not for long, like throwing a baseball to one another, almost like a competition: who can throw this thing higher and farther

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                            @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                            In one of those documentaries I saw they actually put the baby sea lion (dazed, who knows how injured, but alive) back on the beach when they were done. Guess they weren't hungry.

                            But yeah they'll hunt full size whales if they feel like it. The fact they don't regard humans as a snack food is really weird and interesting.

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                              @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                              In one of those documentaries I saw they actually put the baby sea lion (dazed, who knows how injured, but alive) back on the beach when they were done. Guess they weren't hungry.

                              But yeah they'll hunt full size whales if they feel like it. The fact they don't regard humans as a snack food is really weird and interesting.

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                              @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                              #orcas have killed humans:

                              only in captivity

                              which makes sense and i don't blame them

                              but yes, very odd we have no documentation of an #orca killing a human in the wild

                              we have video of them stalking kayaks, but it seems mere curiosity

                              i think this video tells the whole story:

                              seal deathly afraid of orcas, human deathly afraid of orcas, orcas stalking both, silently underneath in one frightening moment:

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                                @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                                #orcas have killed humans:

                                only in captivity

                                which makes sense and i don't blame them

                                but yes, very odd we have no documentation of an #orca killing a human in the wild

                                we have video of them stalking kayaks, but it seems mere curiosity

                                i think this video tells the whole story:

                                seal deathly afraid of orcas, human deathly afraid of orcas, orcas stalking both, silently underneath in one frightening moment:

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                                @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @paninid

                                Maybe there is no documentation because they are good at hiding the evidence?

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                                  @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                                  #orcas have killed humans:

                                  only in captivity

                                  which makes sense and i don't blame them

                                  but yes, very odd we have no documentation of an #orca killing a human in the wild

                                  we have video of them stalking kayaks, but it seems mere curiosity

                                  i think this video tells the whole story:

                                  seal deathly afraid of orcas, human deathly afraid of orcas, orcas stalking both, silently underneath in one frightening moment:

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                                  @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                                  "but yes, very odd we have no documentation of an #orca killing a human in the wild"

                                  Maybe they don't think we taste/smell all that nice.

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                                  • Ben Royce 🇺🇦B Ben Royce 🇺🇦

                                    @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                                    #orcas have killed humans:

                                    only in captivity

                                    which makes sense and i don't blame them

                                    but yes, very odd we have no documentation of an #orca killing a human in the wild

                                    we have video of them stalking kayaks, but it seems mere curiosity

                                    i think this video tells the whole story:

                                    seal deathly afraid of orcas, human deathly afraid of orcas, orcas stalking both, silently underneath in one frightening moment:

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                                    @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @paninid

                                    Kind feel like when the seals on the boat they look up at her like "oh were you going to eat that one? or nah?"

                                    Poor seal.

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                                      @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @paninid

                                      Kind feel like when the seals on the boat they look up at her like "oh were you going to eat that one? or nah?"

                                      Poor seal.

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                                      @futurebird @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @paninid
                                      I remember when that video first went viral, people commenting that the woman was fucked because she couldn’t (legally) touch the seal nor take it away from there.

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                                        @futurebird @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @paninid
                                        I remember when that video first went viral, people commenting that the woman was fucked because she couldn’t (legally) touch the seal nor take it away from there.

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                                        @adriano @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @paninid

                                        Lady (to seal): "you gotta go!"
                                        Seal: That's exactly what I'm trying NOT to do today.

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                                          @benroyce @violetmadder @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                                          "but yes, very odd we have no documentation of an #orca killing a human in the wild"

                                          Maybe they don't think we taste/smell all that nice.

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                                          @marjolica @benroyce @GhostOnTheHalfShell @karlauerbach @futurebird @paninid

                                          They are picky eaters!

                                          Certain groups eat almost exclusively salmon, others seals-- seems they have cultural diet habits.

                                          So it's debatable if they don't eat us because they don't expect us to be tasty at all, OR if it's because they're smart enough to understand we're dangerous, or (my guess) both.

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