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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

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  • Rich Puchalsky  ⩜⃝R Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝

    @futurebird

    "Blue MAGA" refers to a certain subset of Democratic voters like the one guy in this thread who I already blocked -- raised on MSNBC instead of Fox News, fully bought in to US culture war, their people are wonderful etc.

    Not all Democratic voters are Blue MAGA. All Democratic voters did, however, vote for and support genocide. They aren't ashamed: why should Trump be?

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    @richpuchalsky @futurebird

    I didn’t vote because I’m not an American. But suggesting that 2024 was a vote for or against the (obvious to anyone with eyes and ears) genocide implies that there was an actual choice available on that issue. It appears America is hell-bent on arming a genocide regardless of who holds office. But I don’t somehow admire Bibi and his ministers for “being honest” about his intent to wipe Gazans off the map, not do I give Trump a pass or props somehow for “being honest” about his corruption.

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      @richpuchalsky @futurebird

      I didn’t vote because I’m not an American. But suggesting that 2024 was a vote for or against the (obvious to anyone with eyes and ears) genocide implies that there was an actual choice available on that issue. It appears America is hell-bent on arming a genocide regardless of who holds office. But I don’t somehow admire Bibi and his ministers for “being honest” about his intent to wipe Gazans off the map, not do I give Trump a pass or props somehow for “being honest” about his corruption.

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      @DavidM_yeg

      "that 2024 was a vote for or against the (obvious to anyone with eyes and ears) genocide implies that there was an actual choice available on that issue"

      There was no choice, I agree. This is one of the reasons why I didn't vote for either party. But a state that is hell-bent on genocide no matter who is in office is not a good state. It should end. Having it obvious to everyone that it is run by evil people is therefore a good thing.

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      • Rich Puchalsky  ⩜⃝R Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝

        @DavidM_yeg

        "that 2024 was a vote for or against the (obvious to anyone with eyes and ears) genocide implies that there was an actual choice available on that issue"

        There was no choice, I agree. This is one of the reasons why I didn't vote for either party. But a state that is hell-bent on genocide no matter who is in office is not a good state. It should end. Having it obvious to everyone that it is run by evil people is therefore a good thing.

        @futurebird

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        @futurebird @richpuchalsky

        If you say that, then you need to be willing to listen and accept responsibility for the people who are being specifically harmed under this administration, who would not be under another one, otherwise in my books you aren’t much different from the BlueMAGA you complain about.

        *Every* action has consequences - vote for A, vote for B, don’t vote at all - and a mature politics accepts and recognizes those consequences. 🤷‍♂️

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          @futurebird @richpuchalsky

          If you say that, then you need to be willing to listen and accept responsibility for the people who are being specifically harmed under this administration, who would not be under another one, otherwise in my books you aren’t much different from the BlueMAGA you complain about.

          *Every* action has consequences - vote for A, vote for B, don’t vote at all - and a mature politics accepts and recognizes those consequences. 🤷‍♂️

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          @DavidM_yeg

          It's a really common Blue MAGA trope to say that people who didn't vote for genocide have to "accept responsibility for the people who are being specifically harmed under this administration". It's a joke and it means that you are not serious or mature in any way. People can see through this bullshit.

          @futurebird

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          • Rich Puchalsky  ⩜⃝R Rich Puchalsky ⩜⃝

            @DavidM_yeg

            It's a really common Blue MAGA trope to say that people who didn't vote for genocide have to "accept responsibility for the people who are being specifically harmed under this administration". It's a joke and it means that you are not serious or mature in any way. People can see through this bullshit.

            @futurebird

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            @richpuchalsky @DavidM_yeg

            Why does this apply to the genocide but not the other harm?

            Some people had the opportunity to have a small amount of influence in a choice between bad options. The camps on my doorstep, the calls for "mass deportation now" seemed worse to me than a likely similar foreign policy and NOT having that operation in our country with the goal.

            It's not an easy choice. It's not glamorous. I don't even know if I am doing the best thing.

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