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Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

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  • myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

    eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

    Where did this start? Do we like it?

    Chris Ford :tw:C Jean-Baptiste "JBQ" QuéruJ micahcraigM DIRT WIZARDD Trammell HudsonT 10 Replies Last reply
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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

      eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

      Where did this start? Do we like it?

      Chris Ford :tw:C This user is from outside of this forum
      Chris Ford :tw:C This user is from outside of this forum
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      @futurebird I like it. I think it distinguishes from things like storage or network.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

        eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

        Where did this start? Do we like it?

        Jean-Baptiste "JBQ" QuéruJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jean-Baptiste "JBQ" QuéruJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jean-Baptiste "JBQ" Quéru
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        @futurebird I've worked in companies where servers weren't uniform, some were meant to compute things, others to handle large data sets in RAM, others to store persistent data. The nodes that were mean to compute were called compute nodes, and collectively, compute resources.

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        • Chris Ford :tw:C Chris Ford :tw:

          @futurebird I like it. I think it distinguishes from things like storage or network.

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          @cford @futurebird this. It’s been the word used by cloud platforms to describe resources that do processing for a while now, especially since “serverless” has changed the unit from server to function call, and billing has become compute time.

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            Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

            eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

            Where did this start? Do we like it?

            micahcraigM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @futurebird It comes from cloud billing and resource allocation. Your, eg, AWS bill is broken down by 'Compute' and 'Storage' that your deployments have consumed in the previous billing cycle. It's become a popular term of art in the industry since it allows us to attach billing line items to specific departmental budgets.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

              eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

              Where did this start? Do we like it?

              DIRT WIZARDD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @futurebird I have learned to identify this use of the word with someone being full of shit in a very specific way. It's a useful tell. It is the language of my enemies.

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              • DIRT WIZARDD DIRT WIZARD

                @futurebird I have learned to identify this use of the word with someone being full of shit in a very specific way. It's a useful tell. It is the language of my enemies.

                myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                @dirtwizard666

                OK I wouldn't take it that far. But it's a red flag if the person isn't a serious tech expert... I do think some use it as jargon... and others to make it seem like they know jargon.

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                • Alec PerkinsA Alec Perkins

                  @cford @futurebird this. It’s been the word used by cloud platforms to describe resources that do processing for a while now, especially since “serverless” has changed the unit from server to function call, and billing has become compute time.

                  myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @alec @cford

                  The contexts I've encountered it have not used it with enough precision to help me to understand this distinction. I think it's being abused by posers. 😕

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                    eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                    Where did this start? Do we like it?

                    Trammell HudsonT This user is from outside of this forum
                    Trammell HudsonT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @futurebird we should only use "computer" in the original sense

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                      eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                      Where did this start? Do we like it?

                      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      It kind of reminds me of how in math we call N0 "n sub naught"

                      Why not "n sub zero" ? Nobody knows. It's not like it isn't a zero in the subscript but that is how I learned to call it as a baby grad student. So that is how it is.

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                      • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

                        @futurebird we should only use "computer" in the original sense

                        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @th

                        Compute is People.

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          @alec @cford

                          The contexts I've encountered it have not used it with enough precision to help me to understand this distinction. I think it's being abused by posers. 😕

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                          @futurebird @alec Shocking! 😀

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                          • Chris Ford :tw:C Chris Ford :tw:

                            @futurebird @alec Shocking! 😀

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                            @cford @alec

                            I know. How could such a thing happen? LOL

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                            • micahcraigM micahcraig

                              @futurebird It comes from cloud billing and resource allocation. Your, eg, AWS bill is broken down by 'Compute' and 'Storage' that your deployments have consumed in the previous billing cycle. It's become a popular term of art in the industry since it allows us to attach billing line items to specific departmental budgets.

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                              @micahcraig @futurebird
                              Why does this remind me of the time Google changed the meaning of "domain name" to "everything between the double slash and the first slash"?

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                              • Tofu GolemT Tofu Golem

                                @micahcraig @futurebird
                                Why does this remind me of the time Google changed the meaning of "domain name" to "everything between the double slash and the first slash"?

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                                @tofugolem @micahcraig

                                What was it before that?

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                                  eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                                  Where did this start? Do we like it?

                                  Space Catitude 🚀T This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @futurebird

                                  "Compute" has been used as a modifier for >20 years, with "cluster", "farm", or "cloud" -- to mean a parallel arrangement of computers optimized for CPU speed (and sometimes RAM).

                                  As opposed to clusters optimized for network requests, which was the norm for a long time.

                                  So they dropped the main noun. Probably "cloud" is implied now?

                                  The only sour note for me is that it tends to be associated with LLM/SD AI and crypto mining these days, instead of science, engineering, or animation.

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                                    eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                                    Where did this start? Do we like it?

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                                    @futurebird In computer science terms, we’ll say a particular task is “compute bound” (or CPU bound), “memory bound,” or “I/O bound.” It’s a shorthand way of identifying whatever the limiting factor is.

                                    When AWS brought us into the “infrastructure as a service” (IaaS) era, before long they offered different categories of virtual servers for each type of workload.

                                    “Compute” in the way you describe is somewhat new but only a short hop from how we’ve been talking about IaaS for a while.

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                                    • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

                                      @futurebird we should only use "computer" in the original sense

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                                      @th @futurebird that's the compute cluster. Across the hall is the storage cluster - an office of people typing and looking up index cards. The web cluster is in the corners of the ceiling, catching flies.

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                                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                        Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                                        eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                                        Where did this start? Do we like it?

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                                        @futurebird
                                        Being trendy. That’s it.

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                                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                          Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                                          eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                                          Where did this start? Do we like it?

                                          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wrote last edited by futurebird@sauropods.win
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                                          Large Model (in the big bubble)

                                          babbling in the back
                                          check that server rack
                                          my baby's really cute
                                          got stacks of that compute
                                          cus's she a Large Model
                                          (Large Model)
                                          Such a Large Model

                                          She'll hallucinate for you
                                          shares rising to the moon
                                          She's power, she's trouble
                                          baby please don't pop my bubble.

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