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Pete Buttigieg and Gavin Newsom know they're lying about trans kids.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    @CurtAdams @johnzajac

    Do you think that if Democrats keep doing what they have been doing they will win?

    Frankly, as a very practical matter, that's my top concern. How do they wrestle back enough power to move us away from this cliff? And further, if they do get power will they be able to use it effectively?

    I have been trusting the democratic leadership "knows what they are doing" and I think that's a big mistake now.

    For example: They could stop trading stocks. They could do that today.

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    @CurtAdams @johnzajac

    They keep saying "democracy is in danger" and I believe them.

    Yet some of their actions don't tell that same story.

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    • JohnJ John

      @futurebird @CurtAdams

      I think this is a distraction because political leadership is about so much more than legislation, which is something Republicans have understood since Reagan and something Democrats haven't understood since JFK and RFK were assassinated.

      The real missed play here isn't "immigration legislation"; it's calling out GOP lies about the impact immigration has on the country. It's acknowledging and celebrating our reliance on migrant workers. It's supporting their unions.

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      @johnzajac @CurtAdams

      "It's supporting their unions."

      The union angle is the perfect one IMO. Because people who have had their wages depressed by immigrant labor are just people we pretend don't exist. Republicans also don't talk about this exactly, they just do racism.

      If the line were "everyone should be able to unionize. no one should have to compete against off the books labor" I think it'd make a real difference with the kind of voters who have drifted away from democrats.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        @johnzajac @CurtAdams

        "It's supporting their unions."

        The union angle is the perfect one IMO. Because people who have had their wages depressed by immigrant labor are just people we pretend don't exist. Republicans also don't talk about this exactly, they just do racism.

        If the line were "everyone should be able to unionize. no one should have to compete against off the books labor" I think it'd make a real difference with the kind of voters who have drifted away from democrats.

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        @futurebird @CurtAdams

        I agree with this.

        IMO, the real issue then is one of credibility: Biden breaking the railroad strike harmed the Democrats far more than they acknowledge. That New Palestine happened weeks later, and they spent weeks trying to bury the story (despite the *black mushroom cloud* lol) just highlighted how wrong Biden was.

        Democrats need consistency, and they need to enforce loyalty in the party ranks. WE know they can do that, because they *routinely* do it on the left.

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        • JohnJ John

          @futurebird @CurtAdams

          I agree with this.

          IMO, the real issue then is one of credibility: Biden breaking the railroad strike harmed the Democrats far more than they acknowledge. That New Palestine happened weeks later, and they spent weeks trying to bury the story (despite the *black mushroom cloud* lol) just highlighted how wrong Biden was.

          Democrats need consistency, and they need to enforce loyalty in the party ranks. WE know they can do that, because they *routinely* do it on the left.

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          @futurebird @CurtAdams

          It's kind of our earlier discussion: a scheme to eliminate big donors doesn't work if you fudge it just a *leeeetle* bit for these specific big donors.

          A loud support of unions doesn't matter if it comes and goes depending on what the consultants say.

          EDIT: I think Democrats are addicted to default votes and have literally forgotten how to get affirmative ones. That's why absent a completely re-do of their leadership, I struggle to see the party doing any of this.

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          • JohnJ John

            @futurebird @CurtAdams

            I agree with this.

            IMO, the real issue then is one of credibility: Biden breaking the railroad strike harmed the Democrats far more than they acknowledge. That New Palestine happened weeks later, and they spent weeks trying to bury the story (despite the *black mushroom cloud* lol) just highlighted how wrong Biden was.

            Democrats need consistency, and they need to enforce loyalty in the party ranks. WE know they can do that, because they *routinely* do it on the left.

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            @johnzajac @futurebird @CurtAdams Around here, Biden breaking the railroad strike shredded confidence in the Dems amongst workers in the trades.

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            • JohnJ John

              @futurebird @CurtAdams

              It's kind of our earlier discussion: a scheme to eliminate big donors doesn't work if you fudge it just a *leeeetle* bit for these specific big donors.

              A loud support of unions doesn't matter if it comes and goes depending on what the consultants say.

              EDIT: I think Democrats are addicted to default votes and have literally forgotten how to get affirmative ones. That's why absent a completely re-do of their leadership, I struggle to see the party doing any of this.

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              @johnzajac @CurtAdams

              "Are you a real one?"

              If this is a battle against the corrupt it's important to ... not be corrupt. And I don't mean "corrupt" as in breaking laws, I mean not being beholden to special interests of big business or foreign governments.

              There is this idea that if the Republicans are "just as bad" on an issue we can ignore it. I think that's a mistake.

              Yes, they should win because they are "better" but nobody believes them anymore and that is a problem.

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              • siderealS sidereal

                @johnzajac @futurebird @CurtAdams Around here, Biden breaking the railroad strike shredded confidence in the Dems amongst workers in the trades.

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                @sidereal @johnzajac @CurtAdams

                You know what makes it worse? In the long run he did come around. Like I do think this issue was blown up more than it should have been. And he tried hard to course correct. But his initial issues were way off.

                Way off.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @CurtAdams @johnzajac

                  They keep saying "democracy is in danger" and I believe them.

                  Yet some of their actions don't tell that same story.

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                  @CurtAdams @johnzajac

                  In this post I make a suggestion for one thing they might be able to do right now:

                  myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                  Content warning: US Pol: What I Think Democrats Should Do

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    @CurtAdams @johnzajac

                    Do you think that if Democrats keep doing what they have been doing they will win?

                    Frankly, as a very practical matter, that's my top concern. How do they wrestle back enough power to move us away from this cliff? And further, if they do get power will they be able to use it effectively?

                    I have been trusting the democratic leadership "knows what they are doing" and I think that's a big mistake now.

                    For example: They could stop trading stocks. They could do that today.

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                    @futurebird @CurtAdams @johnzajac Are they actually doing anything? From this distance they seem inert.

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                    • Tim RichardsT Tim Richards

                      @futurebird @CurtAdams @johnzajac Are they actually doing anything? From this distance they seem inert.

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                      @timrichards @CurtAdams @johnzajac

                      It is very hard to get much done as a minority party and they have a few actions-- but, nothing that helps to define who they are other than "not Trump" (don't get me wrong for some of us that's enough, but not everyone)

                      I have a possible suggestion since I don't think they will unite behind any left wing ideas, not all of the democrats.

                      But one thing they could all do is clean up the roots of corruption that no voters like.

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                      Content warning: US Pol: What I Think Democrats Should Do

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        @CurtAdams @johnzajac

                        In this post I make a suggestion for one thing they might be able to do right now:

                        myrmepropagandist (@futurebird@sauropods.win)

                        Content warning: US Pol: What I Think Democrats Should Do

                        favicon

                        Sauropods.win (sauropods.win)

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                        @futurebird @johnzajac I very much like a "Contract with America" proposal, and no Congressional/Presidential stock trading belongs at the top of the list.

                        Except - they've already proposed such a bill!

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                        • CurtAdamsC CurtAdams

                          @futurebird @johnzajac I very much like a "Contract with America" proposal, and no Congressional/Presidential stock trading belongs at the top of the list.

                          Except - they've already proposed such a bill!

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                          @CurtAdams @johnzajac

                          I know. But why not just do it without the bill now?

                          Then ask why the Republicans won't?

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