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I was reading about the "new wave of child protection laws" and suddenly the reason this issue has been nagging at me came into sharp focus.

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  • myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    I was reading about the "new wave of child protection laws" and suddenly the reason this issue has been nagging at me came into sharp focus.

    The religious right? The people who normally get worked up about online safety are NOT the ones pushing for these laws.

    And isn't that odd?

    Why are we seeing a near global wave of "online safety" laws, but nobody is lobbying for it?

    Or rather? Why don't I know who is lobbying for this? Why are they invisible?

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      I was reading about the "new wave of child protection laws" and suddenly the reason this issue has been nagging at me came into sharp focus.

      The religious right? The people who normally get worked up about online safety are NOT the ones pushing for these laws.

      And isn't that odd?

      Why are we seeing a near global wave of "online safety" laws, but nobody is lobbying for it?

      Or rather? Why don't I know who is lobbying for this? Why are they invisible?

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      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
      myrmepropagandist
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      I don't think this is about porn.

      That is just the cover story for this attempt to shut down sites that are used by young people for a whole host of "content violations"

      These are the same people who think "China" is manipulating twitter to make the youth left wing.

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        I was reading about the "new wave of child protection laws" and suddenly the reason this issue has been nagging at me came into sharp focus.

        The religious right? The people who normally get worked up about online safety are NOT the ones pushing for these laws.

        And isn't that odd?

        Why are we seeing a near global wave of "online safety" laws, but nobody is lobbying for it?

        Or rather? Why don't I know who is lobbying for this? Why are they invisible?

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        PeterP This user is from outside of this forum
        PeterP This user is from outside of this forum
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        @futurebird

        Collective Shout!

        While they seem best known for lobbying against sexual violence in media, they've been listed in a bunch of articles as lobbying for all the steam & itch.io game delisting, as well as Australia's ...."YouTube ban"(are we really calling it that?)

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          I don't think this is about porn.

          That is just the cover story for this attempt to shut down sites that are used by young people for a whole host of "content violations"

          These are the same people who think "China" is manipulating twitter to make the youth left wing.

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          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
          myrmepropagandist
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          Does anyone know if there are lobbying groups or any actors pushing this? Who are they?

          No one likes it but we all just assume some faceless prudes did this... but they are innocent this time.

          Who is excited and happy about these useless new rules?

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            Does anyone know if there are lobbying groups or any actors pushing this? Who are they?

            No one likes it but we all just assume some faceless prudes did this... but they are innocent this time.

            Who is excited and happy about these useless new rules?

            Roger BW 😷R This user is from outside of this forum
            Roger BW 😷R This user is from outside of this forum
            Roger BW 😷
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            @futurebird Big commercial social media to whom the cost is trivial.
            Age assurance companies (i.e. data thieves).
            Legacy media who think that if kids are blocked they'll start watching television again.

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            • Roger BW 😷R Roger BW 😷

              @futurebird Big commercial social media to whom the cost is trivial.
              Age assurance companies (i.e. data thieves).
              Legacy media who think that if kids are blocked they'll start watching television again.

              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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              @RogerBW

              "Legacy media who think that if kids are blocked they'll start watching television again."

              God. it's so sad.

              Tiktok and twitter should be worried about kids not watching videos at all anymore and engaging in live gaming sessions, and collaborations.

              The biggest "show" with middleschoolers is a "let's play" competition with their favorite online personalities.

              THAT's where it's going.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                Does anyone know if there are lobbying groups or any actors pushing this? Who are they?

                No one likes it but we all just assume some faceless prudes did this... but they are innocent this time.

                Who is excited and happy about these useless new rules?

                AMSA This user is from outside of this forum
                AMSA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @futurebird it's just straight up censorship and those in power hating anonymous whistleblowers and activists. Porn-ban is just how they try to get enough support to push it through.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  I was reading about the "new wave of child protection laws" and suddenly the reason this issue has been nagging at me came into sharp focus.

                  The religious right? The people who normally get worked up about online safety are NOT the ones pushing for these laws.

                  And isn't that odd?

                  Why are we seeing a near global wave of "online safety" laws, but nobody is lobbying for it?

                  Or rather? Why don't I know who is lobbying for this? Why are they invisible?

                  1/

                  Dr Adrian SimmonsA This user is from outside of this forum
                  Dr Adrian SimmonsA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @futurebird they aren't invisible "This was due to pressure from children’s rights groups as well as the age and identity verification software lobby, which has sought to steer the UK’s post-Brexit Internet regulation regime in the interest of the creation of a market for their products." That was written 4 years ago https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/age-verification-in-the-online-safety-bill/

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    Does anyone know if there are lobbying groups or any actors pushing this? Who are they?

                    No one likes it but we all just assume some faceless prudes did this... but they are innocent this time.

                    Who is excited and happy about these useless new rules?

                    llewellyL This user is from outside of this forum
                    llewellyL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @futurebird I think it has been in the heritage foundation's planning documents for a long time. They have their traditonal patriarchal reasons for it, which have always been more about control than about prudishness, but prudishness is the surface cover.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      I was reading about the "new wave of child protection laws" and suddenly the reason this issue has been nagging at me came into sharp focus.

                      The religious right? The people who normally get worked up about online safety are NOT the ones pushing for these laws.

                      And isn't that odd?

                      Why are we seeing a near global wave of "online safety" laws, but nobody is lobbying for it?

                      Or rather? Why don't I know who is lobbying for this? Why are they invisible?

                      1/

                      Lil BubbertB This user is from outside of this forum
                      Lil BubbertB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @futurebird

                      It isn't about protecting children, it's about exerting control of your populace, and forcing them to give up anonymity to interact with the wider web.

                      Considering UK has cameras everywhere, makes you license your TV, revoked the people's right to self-defense. They have way too much control on their people's REAL lives, they want to move in on their DIGITAL lives as well.

                      Insane to me that you can illegaly enter with no ID, but you need ID to talk about it on Twitter.

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                      • Lil BubbertB Lil Bubbert

                        @futurebird

                        It isn't about protecting children, it's about exerting control of your populace, and forcing them to give up anonymity to interact with the wider web.

                        Considering UK has cameras everywhere, makes you license your TV, revoked the people's right to self-defense. They have way too much control on their people's REAL lives, they want to move in on their DIGITAL lives as well.

                        Insane to me that you can illegaly enter with no ID, but you need ID to talk about it on Twitter.

                        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
                        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
                        myrmepropagandist
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                        @Bubbey

                        Yeah the way that's it being implemented makes it transparent that the focus isn't kids at all.

                        I don't know how you write a law that addresses online safety for kids, but I think it would have more to do with moderation, and responsiveness to complaints about things like bullying.

                        But that kind of stuff is no fun. (By "no fun" I mean there isn't an obvious way to make money doing it. And it's about asking companies to take responsibility for the safety of younger users more.)

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          Does anyone know if there are lobbying groups or any actors pushing this? Who are they?

                          No one likes it but we all just assume some faceless prudes did this... but they are innocent this time.

                          Who is excited and happy about these useless new rules?

                          JonJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          JonJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @futurebird here in the US, they’ve being pushed by anti-sexworker and anti-lgbtq+ orgs and politicians. It’s very challenging because “Big Tech is exploiting children and we need to do something” is clearly true, but the things that would actually have an impact (strong privacy laws, severe penalties under existing consumer protection laws) are politically challenging because of tech’s influence. So legislation like this has bipartisan support because it lets legislators look like they’re doing something, and big tech companies are basically okay with it (because it’s a barrier to smaller companies, and because it normalizes surveillance and collecting data “ to keep people safe”)

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                          • Dr Adrian SimmonsA Dr Adrian Simmons

                            @futurebird they aren't invisible "This was due to pressure from children’s rights groups as well as the age and identity verification software lobby, which has sought to steer the UK’s post-Brexit Internet regulation regime in the interest of the creation of a market for their products." That was written 4 years ago https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/age-verification-in-the-online-safety-bill/

                            myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
                            myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @adrinux

                            OK but in terms of real people WHO is the kind of person who would be in one of these groups or support them?

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                              @futurebird

                              Collective Shout!

                              While they seem best known for lobbying against sexual violence in media, they've been listed in a bunch of articles as lobbying for all the steam & itch.io game delisting, as well as Australia's ...."YouTube ban"(are we really calling it that?)

                              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
                              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
                              myrmepropagandist
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                              @phpete

                              Who is Collective Shout?

                              What kind of person would spend their free time as a volunteer?

                              I smell astroturf.

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