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Chebucto Regional Softball Club

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A forum for discussing and organizing recreational softball and baseball games and leagues in the greater Halifax area.

"If you look up X in the dictionary there is his photo"

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    "If you look up X in the dictionary there is his photo"

    "If you google X the first ten results are ..."

    "We asked chat GPT about X and it said..."

    It annoys me when people use "appeal to LLM" as if it were some neutral arbitrator. But it comes from a long history of bad and similar appeals to general banks of information. It also has something in common with "5 out of 6 doctors agree"

    It's shorthand for "everyone knows" or "it's common sense"

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      "If you look up X in the dictionary there is his photo"

      "If you google X the first ten results are ..."

      "We asked chat GPT about X and it said..."

      It annoys me when people use "appeal to LLM" as if it were some neutral arbitrator. But it comes from a long history of bad and similar appeals to general banks of information. It also has something in common with "5 out of 6 doctors agree"

      It's shorthand for "everyone knows" or "it's common sense"

      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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      It matters if an idea is popular or not. But being popular or statistically normal isn't the same thing as being true. At some level most people are aware of that. So when you make an appeal to the dictionary or a poll try to position it as only informing us about what ideas are common and widely accepted.

      I worry that some people confuse this with an idea being true.

      Over on twitter they have formalized this system with grok LLM being used as the "last word" in arguments.

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        It matters if an idea is popular or not. But being popular or statistically normal isn't the same thing as being true. At some level most people are aware of that. So when you make an appeal to the dictionary or a poll try to position it as only informing us about what ideas are common and widely accepted.

        I worry that some people confuse this with an idea being true.

        Over on twitter they have formalized this system with grok LLM being used as the "last word" in arguments.

        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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        Often when I see "grok clap backs" as screenshots from twitter I agree with grok.

        But of course that's true. That's how grok is designed: to minimize the number of people who will disagree with the output. With some hand curated exceptions from Mr. Musk of course.

        Those exceptions are the key. They are the pressure points used to shift public opinion.

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          Often when I see "grok clap backs" as screenshots from twitter I agree with grok.

          But of course that's true. That's how grok is designed: to minimize the number of people who will disagree with the output. With some hand curated exceptions from Mr. Musk of course.

          Those exceptions are the key. They are the pressure points used to shift public opinion.

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          If you want to understand a politician quickly from their voting record you look at the instances, often rare, where they did NOT vote with their party. This tells you what they value or who pays them or both.

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