Me and the boys were absolutely about the warhammer one and I'm pretty sure once it gets on a good sale we're co-oping the recent one.

You're the one suggesting that your lack of attraction to these character models is an objective flaw. Which is, of course, semantically silly, if nothing else. Not finding a character (or person) attractive for whatever reason is your business. Taking to the forum and yelling about androgyny being *objectively* unattractive (in an online space which I'd wager has a disproportionate representation of trans and NB individuals) is an interesting choice.

The uno reverse card you're trying to play is so silly. Yes, I am intolerant of intolerance. This sort of queerphobic bigotry is hateful, cringe and diametrically opposed to "_acceptance_". You can't be supportive of queer lives when you are also demonizing queer repsentation as ugly.

There's a [pretty long video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNzH495CQI) about why this sort of thing happens. Basically this sort of game is relatively cheap to make and investors think they have a chance of recreating the success of Overwatch or Fortnite or smth

I called them unattractive. *You* called that a flaw. Maybe it is. Like it or not, people prefer attractive characters in PvP hero shooters.  You seem to be taking this very personally. If you’re more attracted to fat, lumpy, and sexually ambiguous people, more power to you. You just don’t represent the vast majority of people who play these games.

Queer people don’t have to be ugly and fat. What an insane take. It’s not “queerphobic” to be unattracted to people. It *is* homophobic (and queerphobic) to tell people what they’re allowed to be attracted to.

Went down quicker than the Paris Concord. It's incredibly ironic using a name that's tied to disaster and then trying to one-up it's disastrousness.

You call the space saturated with sameness then rip on the game for taking a different stylistic choice. You're contradicting your own arguments.

Warhammer games tend to be pretty solid, I've enjoyed every one I've bought so far. If anything that episode undersold the power of space marines.

I don't think you're trying to engage honestly but I'm going to on the off chance someone is reading this thread on a bad day and thinking "maybe he has a point? Why can't I be attracted to XYZ?" You're trying to twist this into a question of "do I have to be attracted to everyone in order to be accepting"? The original question that's being engaged with is why, in your words, does - "morbidly obese" - "gender non-conforming" Make for "the worst character designs in living memory"? Why can't gender non-conforming characters have an interesting character design? Why is physical fitness required for an interesting character design? The subtext I'm reading from this is *you* think that in order for a character to have an interesting design that they must be attractive. If that's not what you're trying to say feel free to claim otherwise, but I don't know why else you'd bring those factors in if you weren't... A counter argument to your claim: I claim deep rock galactic has very interesting character designs. The costumes all have a similar theme but are distinct enough I can tell the difference between the characters. The colors are both grimy to indicate being underground for long periods of time but also each has a bright color palette so you can easily distinguish between characters. I think these designs are great. I am not attracted to any of these characters. I would never want to fuck any of them. I still think their designs are great. I don't think attractiveness is a requirement for interesting character design. 

God, can you imagine if Overwatch had launched with a muscley ninja or a fat guy?

You wouldn't fuck Scout? Prude.

There's probably an angle where that pose looks dynamic. It's not this one.

> this was one of those rare examples where we can all come together to objectively declare these characters a train wreck. I don't think you know what objective means.

That is why we shouldn't trust marketing.

Never forget. Cuz that shit was funny AF.

I get your point about sexual attraction not being necessary, but you're still kind of making the other user's point for them. Deep Rock Galactic works because of a cohesive aesthetic with characters that actually fit the world they're in. Concord was like a cast of GI Joe characters who went through a corporate intersectional diversity blender.

See you in a few days for the anniversary of its shutdown

I mean I wasn’t really arguing that Concord had good character designs. Just that a chunk of his criteria (obesity and gender conformity) aren’t good criteria of it.

Where are all the fuckable men?