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I'm Getting Real Tired Of Not Being Able To Trust That A Video Game Doesn't Have AI Crap In It - Aftermath

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    [Archive](https://archive.is/HDEJa) > Some video games have been trying to use generative AI for years now, and for the most part people simply have not been having it. Why would we? It's lazy, it's ugly, it's an ethical black hole and it's being driven by an executive class desperate to lay off even more workers. While earlier and more brazen attempts at employing the tech were obvious, lately it's becoming more common for studios to slide a little AI-generated content in without drawing attention to it. > > *Jurassic World Evolution 3* launched with some AI-generated character portraits, then got bullied into removing them. *Clair Obscur*, which will be a lot of people's game of the year, appeared to quietly launch with some AI-generated art then just as quietly patch it out. I was going to review the city-building grand strategy game *Kaiserpunk* until I saw they were using AI-generated images for their dialogue sections, after which I promptly uninstalled it. > > The latest culprit is *The Alters*, which has found to have shipped not only with AI-generated placeholder text in-game, but also employed AI-generated translations in some of its side content as well. None of this was disclosed prior to the game's release; it was all discovered later, by players, and has prompted an explanation of sorts from the developers which tries to calm everyone down, but which has just made things worse, because if it took people discovering these specific instances to find that 11 Bit had used AI-generated content in the game's development, how do we know there's not more of it?
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    Yeah and I am also real scared about this “green screen” technology in movies, as if they fake stuff you know.
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      Yeah and I am also real scared about this “green screen” technology in movies, as if they fake stuff you know.
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      Fake stuff? Next you'll tell me that the dragons in that new How to Train Your Dragon movie aren't really dragons.
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        that sounds like an ethics problem, the solution to most of those is to get rid of ethics
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        Most people are ignoring it these days anyway...
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          The personal touch was underpaid workers doing cookie cutter work that was hardly better than AI does but more expensive. I don’t see actual talented artists complaining all that much about AI it’s always the assembly line video game artists or even worst some furry fucker who didn’t even have their own style to begin with with. Ie the people who AI was created to replace because they bring nothing to the table.
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          I know *many* talented artists that very much do not care for AI slop.
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            Hard to convince a studio to embrace it if this article is the kneejerk response to some PNGs. Which leads the loudest complainers to act vindicated, because what could it possibly be good for, except the few PNGs they notice?
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            Nah, the problem is that AI is only being used to generate static content, "finished" assets. Where are the npcs with organic dialogue and more realistic reactions to player input? That's the AI that I've seen being promised and not being delivered anywhere.
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              That's because they keep trying to push AI into the foreground, not the background where it belongs
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              I mean, this article was spawned by The Alters, which had a bad machine translation segment (a thing since long before we called it AI) and... Some lorem ipsum in a background texture. It's already in every game in the background. Do you think paid graphic designers are instructed *not* to use the AI features built into Photoshop?
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                Nah, the problem is that AI is only being used to generate static content, "finished" assets. Where are the npcs with organic dialogue and more realistic reactions to player input? That's the AI that I've seen being promised and not being delivered anywhere.
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                ... right, and the reason nobody's done that, despite the aggressive availability of local models, is that even a few static assets lead to shrill backlash. Like this article. My man is frothing at the mouth because a complex systemic city-builder used a program to draw the "you can't cut back on funding!" guy. We can assume the same people would screech that any game with generative dialog was "written by AI." Like a text parser being able to respond to insults means the whole plot came from a ten-word prompt. It's not a rational environment for selling studios on a multi-million-dollar investment.
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                  Fake stuff? Next you'll tell me that the dragons in that new How to Train Your Dragon movie aren't really dragons.
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                  They are in fact, dressed up hamsters.
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                    [Archive](https://archive.is/HDEJa) > Some video games have been trying to use generative AI for years now, and for the most part people simply have not been having it. Why would we? It's lazy, it's ugly, it's an ethical black hole and it's being driven by an executive class desperate to lay off even more workers. While earlier and more brazen attempts at employing the tech were obvious, lately it's becoming more common for studios to slide a little AI-generated content in without drawing attention to it. > > *Jurassic World Evolution 3* launched with some AI-generated character portraits, then got bullied into removing them. *Clair Obscur*, which will be a lot of people's game of the year, appeared to quietly launch with some AI-generated art then just as quietly patch it out. I was going to review the city-building grand strategy game *Kaiserpunk* until I saw they were using AI-generated images for their dialogue sections, after which I promptly uninstalled it. > > The latest culprit is *The Alters*, which has found to have shipped not only with AI-generated placeholder text in-game, but also employed AI-generated translations in some of its side content as well. None of this was disclosed prior to the game's release; it was all discovered later, by players, and has prompted an explanation of sorts from the developers which tries to calm everyone down, but which has just made things worse, because if it took people discovering these specific instances to find that 11 Bit had used AI-generated content in the game's development, how do we know there's not more of it?
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                    If you can't tell it's AI, then it's a problem entirely made up in your own head.
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                      If you can't tell it's AI, then it's a problem entirely made up in your own head.
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                      It’s still an ethical dilemma
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                        What is the oversimplification? The tech exists, once it’s out there you can’t stop it so you might as well find how to put it to good use, and this is a good use. Protecting jobs is not an argument, it’s just reacting to perceived threats emotionally.
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                        The tech for genetic experiments on humans exists, too, and yet no one does it.
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                          The tech for genetic experiments on humans exists, too, and yet no one does it.
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                          False, there are genetic experiments being done all the time. There are lines of inquiry and methodology which are illegal and frowned upon but that doesn’t mean genetic experimentation nonexistent.
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