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Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

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  • Alec PerkinsA Alec Perkins

    @cford @futurebird this. It’s been the word used by cloud platforms to describe resources that do processing for a while now, especially since “serverless” has changed the unit from server to function call, and billing has become compute time.

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    @alec @cford

    The contexts I've encountered it have not used it with enough precision to help me to understand this distinction. I think it's being abused by posers. 😕

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

      eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

      Where did this start? Do we like it?

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      @futurebird we should only use "computer" in the original sense

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      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

        Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

        eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

        Where did this start? Do we like it?

        myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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        It kind of reminds me of how in math we call N0 "n sub naught"

        Why not "n sub zero" ? Nobody knows. It's not like it isn't a zero in the subscript but that is how I learned to call it as a baby grad student. So that is how it is.

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        • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

          @futurebird we should only use "computer" in the original sense

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          wrote last edited by futurebird@sauropods.win
          #11

          @th

          Compute is People.

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            @alec @cford

            The contexts I've encountered it have not used it with enough precision to help me to understand this distinction. I think it's being abused by posers. 😕

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            @futurebird @alec Shocking! 😀

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            • Chris Ford :tw:C Chris Ford :tw:

              @futurebird @alec Shocking! 😀

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              @cford @alec

              I know. How could such a thing happen? LOL

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              • micahcraigM micahcraig

                @futurebird It comes from cloud billing and resource allocation. Your, eg, AWS bill is broken down by 'Compute' and 'Storage' that your deployments have consumed in the previous billing cycle. It's become a popular term of art in the industry since it allows us to attach billing line items to specific departmental budgets.

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                @micahcraig @futurebird
                Why does this remind me of the time Google changed the meaning of "domain name" to "everything between the double slash and the first slash"?

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                • Tofu GolemT Tofu Golem

                  @micahcraig @futurebird
                  Why does this remind me of the time Google changed the meaning of "domain name" to "everything between the double slash and the first slash"?

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                  @tofugolem @micahcraig

                  What was it before that?

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                    eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                    Where did this start? Do we like it?

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                    @futurebird

                    "Compute" has been used as a modifier for >20 years, with "cluster", "farm", or "cloud" -- to mean a parallel arrangement of computers optimized for CPU speed (and sometimes RAM).

                    As opposed to clusters optimized for network requests, which was the norm for a long time.

                    So they dropped the main noun. Probably "cloud" is implied now?

                    The only sour note for me is that it tends to be associated with LLM/SD AI and crypto mining these days, instead of science, engineering, or animation.

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                      eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                      Where did this start? Do we like it?

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                      @futurebird In computer science terms, we’ll say a particular task is “compute bound” (or CPU bound), “memory bound,” or “I/O bound.” It’s a shorthand way of identifying whatever the limiting factor is.

                      When AWS brought us into the “infrastructure as a service” (IaaS) era, before long they offered different categories of virtual servers for each type of workload.

                      “Compute” in the way you describe is somewhat new but only a short hop from how we’ve been talking about IaaS for a while.

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                      • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

                        @futurebird we should only use "computer" in the original sense

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                        @th @futurebird that's the compute cluster. Across the hall is the storage cluster - an office of people typing and looking up index cards. The web cluster is in the corners of the ceiling, catching flies.

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                          eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                          Where did this start? Do we like it?

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                          @futurebird
                          Being trendy. That’s it.

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                          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                            Why are people using the word "compute" in a new way, I think as a short hand for "sever resources" all over the place.

                            eg. "we will invest in more compute" and "there isn't enough compute for that" etc.

                            Where did this start? Do we like it?

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                            wrote last edited by futurebird@sauropods.win
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                            Large Model (in the big bubble)

                            babbling in the back
                            check that server rack
                            my baby's really cute
                            got stacks of that compute
                            cus's she a Large Model
                            (Large Model)
                            Such a Large Model

                            She'll hallucinate for you
                            shares rising to the moon
                            She's power, she's trouble
                            baby please don't pop my bubble.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              Large Model (in the big bubble)

                              babbling in the back
                              check that server rack
                              my baby's really cute
                              got stacks of that compute
                              cus's she a Large Model
                              (Large Model)
                              Such a Large Model

                              She'll hallucinate for you
                              shares rising to the moon
                              She's power, she's trouble
                              baby please don't pop my bubble.

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                              Follow me for more innovative bars.

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                Large Model (in the big bubble)

                                babbling in the back
                                check that server rack
                                my baby's really cute
                                got stacks of that compute
                                cus's she a Large Model
                                (Large Model)
                                Such a Large Model

                                She'll hallucinate for you
                                shares rising to the moon
                                She's power, she's trouble
                                baby please don't pop my bubble.

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                                @futurebird

                                💀

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                                • Jeremy KahnT Jeremy Kahn

                                  @futurebird

                                  💀

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                                  @futurebird

                                  My conda got work for you
                                  Cause you got that GPU
                                  All the ladies want to know
                                  They love that tensorflow

                                  Cause my baby got rack

                                  Etc etc

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                                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                    It kind of reminds me of how in math we call N0 "n sub naught"

                                    Why not "n sub zero" ? Nobody knows. It's not like it isn't a zero in the subscript but that is how I learned to call it as a baby grad student. So that is how it is.

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                                    @futurebird I definitely had math, physics, and cs profs who said "tee zero" for "T₀", and others that said "tee null" for "T₀" To me these two seemed each about as common as "tee naught".

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