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Games run faster on SteamOS than Windows 11, Ars testing finds

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  • ? Guest
    The XBox Ally could still be worthwhile if it ran XBox One and backwards compatible XBox 360 and XBox games. I don't know why Microsoft didn't do that.
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    We don't know that yet. Allegedly some old Xbox console only games like prototype and the darkness are showing up on the PC Xbox app so who knows
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      I found the same thing on CachyOS (another Arch fork). The increase for me was staggering. Lies of P went from an unstable 144fps on windows 11 with an over lock (OC) on my GPU to 200fps in Cachy. Setting was were all maxed out at 1440p. I noticed a similar jump from other games. Modded and vanilla NBA 2K25 went a stuttery mess at 180fps (frequent dips down to 72fps) to a steady 180fps with NO dips. I like to test things on The First Descendent, and it went from an unstable 79fps with maxed settings to 119fps. And while I don’t have numbers for it, The Witcher 3 Next Gen (vanilla and heavily modded) run a lot smoother. But after ten years, that game has been optimized out the ass. I did notice, however, that the increase in performance diminished greatly as I turned down settings. On Windows 11, I would notice a way “higher” increase in frames. For Example, I could tweak settings in the First Descendent like Global illumination and increase frames in Windows 11 to 109fps, but still unstable. In Cachy, if I did these things, I didn’t really notice a meaningful impact. RT also performs slightly worse on Linux. But I figure anyone using Linux might be the same type of person to not care about RT. My hypothesis is that without the CPU resources being eaten up by things like Windows Defender, the CPU is able to process more data quicker, reducing GPU wait time. I don’t have data on that, I would need something as in depth as presentmon from Intel for testing. Arch has forks of that, but nothing nearly as in depth, and PresentMon has declined any Linux support in the foreseeable future. I should mention, the OVERALL jump is ~40% going to CachyOS. And we know that the jump from Windows 10 to 11 saw a ~27% hit due to the new Windows Defender. My system is 64GB of SK Hynix DDR5, 9070xt (on my Windows Partition it’s OC’d, but on CachyOS I leave it stock), and a 9800x3D that has been manually OC’d in the bios and a 240mm AIO. I leave the panels off my O11 D Mini. The motherboard is a Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite (2x8 pins for the CPU delivery). On my Ally, I also noticed a difference swapping to SteamOS. Something to keep in mind with anyone planning to do that, you can allocate up to 6GB of RAM to the iGPU before Arch/SteamOS gets affected. I just don’t see anyone telling you you can do this.
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      You could use Nsight, it has a Linux version and is very in depth (shows every draw call, also has one that shows very detailed CPU tasks) Of course harder to use than presentmon
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        I'm glad I'm one of those people who can't seem to percieve any difference above 60Hz Having low standards is pretty convenient
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        I can notice things like mouse movement being smoother at high refresh rates, but it's totally not a deal breaker. 60hz is more than good enough for everyday use.
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          Imagine if Valve decided to ship HL3 only on SteamOS 🙂
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          They're already going to only ship it through Steam. As long as you're using Steam, they don't care.
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            RT = Rollercoaster Tycoon?
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            "Hello everyone, and welcome to another video" - Marcel Vos
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              😭😭😭 Sadly, Microsoft Teams runs like dogshit everywhere
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              But have you tried Outlook (NEW) and Teams (NEW)?? Microsoft made changes to deeply integrate copilot into them, while making the UI unintelligible and broken as well. It's a much more authentic Windows experience
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                Only there's a desktop mode that is easily accessible and opens up the device for all manner of uses.
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                Many many features and functions missing. It's made for games.
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                  Why does it need to be dumbed down for the average joe? Why does guis need to be designed for the person not using it? Why not design them for the people using it now and improve them for the actual users of the software instead of the persons NOT using the software? Thats a stupid idea and that very line of thought is the brainrot that has led to the enshittification of so much the last couple of decades.
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                  You don't understand marketing and that people need a uniform experience. You need simplicity to get the average person. You're thinking as a advanced computer user, not a basic or novice user.
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                    😭😭😭 Sadly, Microsoft Teams runs like dogshit everywhere
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                    I was using Teams on Firefox and I've been thinking that FF is the problem that Teams's working horribly, but man, it works horrible on chromium as well
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                      Many many features and functions missing. It's made for games.
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                      It may be made for games but it's a more tolerable desktop experience than a fully fledged Windows PC. Which features/functions are "missing"
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                        I'm glad I'm one of those people who can't seem to percieve any difference above 60Hz Having low standards is pretty convenient
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                        I believe everyone can, it just takes practice and is only relevant for 120hz games. Or VR.
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                          It may be made for games but it's a more tolerable desktop experience than a fully fledged Windows PC. Which features/functions are "missing"
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                          Says you who do not represent everyone.
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                            You don't understand marketing and that people need a uniform experience. You need simplicity to get the average person. You're thinking as a advanced computer user, not a basic or novice user.
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                            Why do average users need to use linux. Let them stay in windows if that's where they are happy. Making linux into a system just as shitty as windows will just replace shit with different shit.
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                              "Hello everyone, and welcome to another video" - Marcel Vos
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                              "Drowning 50000 guests in 20 seconds"
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                                Says you who do not represent everyone.
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                                And you are an elected official?
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                                  You could use Nsight, it has a Linux version and is very in depth (shows every draw call, also has one that shows very detailed CPU tasks) Of course harder to use than presentmon
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                                  I will report back
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                                    Why do average users need to use linux. Let them stay in windows if that's where they are happy. Making linux into a system just as shitty as windows will just replace shit with different shit.
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                                    But that's the whole issue. Microsoft will continue to dictate how the internet and computers in general function if the regular users don't adopt something else. The regular users won't adopt Linux because the current users of Linux want to gatekeep Linux. You bitch and complain "why do people user shitty Windows?" Then when given an answer say "we don't want them using Linux anyway." You are showing exactly how fucking stupid you are.
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                                      I believe it, Windows bloat these days is so bad. I keep telling my friends Tarkov runs better on Linux if they'd just let me play the goddamn multiplayer I'd be golden
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                                      I'm thinking of keeping timer next to me for all the time I waste literally waiting for Windows 11 to load the bloody right click menu (and other things) at work.
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                                        But that's the whole issue. Microsoft will continue to dictate how the internet and computers in general function if the regular users don't adopt something else. The regular users won't adopt Linux because the current users of Linux want to gatekeep Linux. You bitch and complain "why do people user shitty Windows?" Then when given an answer say "we don't want them using Linux anyway." You are showing exactly how fucking stupid you are.
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                                        It's almost as if linux users are a group of many individuals with different reasonings behind their vastly different goals and priorities and not one homogenous group. Who would have thought?
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                                          It's almost as if linux users are a group of many individuals with different reasonings behind their vastly different goals and priorities and not one homogenous group. Who would have thought?
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                                          You are completely missing my point. Linux will not be adopted by the masses which it needs to do to kill Microsoft's stranglehold on the industry while there is no uniformity to it. The idea of hating Microsoft but not wanting to make it easier for current Microsoft users to switch to Linux isn't coming from 2 sides of the Linux group. It coming from the same individuals. It's the worst type of gatekeeping.
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