>concept of wargaming Its the origin of the hobby and especially as a training model. Its how our culture(s) conceptualizes all conflict (in literary sense, including 'vs self' and 'vs nature'). 'Hes a fighter' 'soldier on' 'war on drugs'. I agree it's toxic as hell, but it's deeply entrenched and i yhink needs to be acknowledged to be solved

Nop. The concept goes farrer is the past, from people inventing stories together to just people asking "what if". All isn't from DnD. There was something before. DnD may be the first one to have been commercialized (and successful enough to be remembered).

The concept of professional training of gamed out simulated scenarios, i remember seeing this, separately from d&d, traced back to the same place. Look I'm with you in spirit, but i think you're missing the secret ending here.

I am talking of times with kids, in the middle of a story, saying that they would have discussed more with the dragon because the princess would have been boring (yes, it's a sexist story in this example). This is also a source of role-playing.

True, but if you want to get that basic, nearly all human behavior is intuitive.

Perhaps. But it was only that war isn't needed to imagine stories, even if those stories follow some rules. I was expecting that you would say that not war but conflict is always present.

I like to think this meeting could’ve been a fist fight.