@futurebird you know, we've been chewing on this and we don't have a good proposal yet

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In my sci-fi story there is a massive data center and I thought about making it "10km wide" but then scaled it back a bit because that seemed absurd.@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird
we of course have zero evidence about where or to what extent anything like that is happening today, we only mention it because it's a nice simple mechanism of deception that could plausibly produce some of what we're seeing. financial manipulation can take a lot of forms and we're not experts on it, we just enjoy having a concrete example. -
In my sci-fi story there is a massive data center and I thought about making it "10km wide" but then scaled it back a bit because that seemed absurd.@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird when the Silicon Valley Bank thing happened a year or two ago, it came to light that some VCs had been telling the startups they funded to buy stuff from other startups they funded, and it was very eye-opening for us personally to realize that that's a thing.
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In my sci-fi story there is a massive data center and I thought about making it "10km wide" but then scaled it back a bit because that seemed absurd.@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird in the dot-com bubble (which, for young 'uns, came decades after the AI Winter we just mentioned), people thought Yahoo was profitable because it had strong revenue...
but that revenue was mostly ads that other tech startups were buying with VC funding... so at some point the finance types stopped believing that that counts as real, and everything went poof all at once.
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In my sci-fi story there is a massive data center and I thought about making it "10km wide" but then scaled it back a bit because that seemed absurd.@nazokiyoubinbou @futurebird there's no need to guess, this has happened before with "AI". funding will dry up and it'll be a topic tech people avoid for fear of being laughed at as unserious. at least, that's the path things are currently on if nothing changes it.
(this is a public place so we should clarify that we don't claim to know when this will happen. could be years. "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.")
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In my sci-fi story there is a massive data center and I thought about making it "10km wide" but then scaled it back a bit because that seemed absurd.@futurebird the first is training ever-larger ML models (not likely to actually be useful, size isn't really what makes them useful past a certain point, but companies want to believe it is because size is something capital is good at)
the second is storing ever-more surveillance data
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In my sci-fi story there is a massive data center and I thought about making it "10km wide" but then scaled it back a bit because that seemed absurd.@futurebird it's probably a vanity project with no specific purpose, but there are two things for which additional size helps that we can think of (and for which power usage helps - you should really rank data centers by how much power they draw, not least because that's public information and most other stuff isn't)...