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Sony faces class action over expensive digital game and DLC prices — ‘Sony tax’ means digital games cost ‘an average of 47% more’ than those on disc, group alleges -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamYou are not the hero here. Just another jerk. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamYou started in with being extremely rude so I'm just gonna move to ignoring your other commentary now. Shocking I know. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamSo, you think a good way to correct someone is to directly insult them because you find their points unrelated but yours perfect? Rude. And the only thing steam controls via contract is the ability to sell your games via steam keys for price parity. And you misunderstood my point. RuneScape isn't even on the epic game store so you aren't reading my words carefully. You are projecting your own hypocrisy. -
Debunking the grey market beyond Steamhttps://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys That's the policy on steam keys. If you are not using their steam keys it's not covered by their contract agreement at least. The lawsuit is not yet finished and while we can take their complaints into account we can't take them for fact. The case was already dismissed once because they argued the 30% was controlling the market but it's been there since day 1 of their storefront and has not changed to force game price changes. Beyond that they argue that Valve bought servers to take them offline to push players to them but... That's not really on this point of price controlling or the ability sell non steam keys. Literally RuneScape does this by offering memberships not available on steam. If you see something I am missing from the lawsuit please let me know, preferably without the hostility if you can manage. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamRight. Ok then. You have wasted enough of your time. I hope you figure out how to make your life less miserable through actions rather than complaints. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamI am asking you to explain your point. You can not rely on making others do your work for you. That is you obstructing your point through others. Make your point and make it clearly since you seem insistent on doing so. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamConsider me not in your head to understand your perspective and try to get it across clearly to me. No sarcasm or condescending tone. I do not see how these are comparable and don't think of steam as a utility that owns the singular option for infrastructure as it's a digital service that others can and will spin up to avoid using Steams backend. They literally don't have to. And sure I am welcome to information if it is accurate and you have it. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamYou are acting like a bully because you are upset about something and have decided to take it out on the largest target you could find and anyone that doesn't agree with you, or your method of acting like a bully. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamYou think I'm wasting your time? Boy howdy do I have a mind blower for you. You are wasting your own time. I can't do anything to it. And you are being pretty good at wasting that and yourself already. Wasting time by not even bothering looking at yourself and your actions is gonna delay you a lot. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamIt wouldn't be a public utility they would be a company that needs to make a profit still and would find a way to do so with fees on downloads. And humble does not pay the 30% if you buy in their storefront currently. So your complaint is that prices are high and getting rid of Steam would alter that? -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamSo now you decided to be condescending because you view yourself as a superior human and deface yourself to what you think others are like? Wow. That's awful. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamWait but you can link Humble to steam and it checks what games you already own. GOG wants you to just have the local game files and an installer so they don't need this and don't need Valve's backend. Why pay valve for each download when you can host it yourself and not worry about the fee? Itch seems to agree with that. And then wouldn't everyone still be using Valve as a backend and they would have a monopoly on the infrastructure of all game downloads then? And could charge high rates to download? -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamOh so like how I can buy my steam keys on fanatical but still download and play them via the steam backend while using a different frontend like LaunchBox? And Steam could take a 30% fee on transactions while using their service? Something like that? -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamAnd you think others can't argue when you lower yourself to the floor in order be angry without purpose. Smearing yourself in mud to show us just makes you a mess. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamYou didn't answer the questions and said you did then turn and said it was my fault for not agreeing with you. You didn't state how they are a monopoly you just wanted the agreement. You didn't state how your comparison related just figured it would be obvious. You are being a hypocrite and stating your actions on me for asking follow ups. Do not blame me for not being able to converse when you are the one refusing to participate in a meaningful way. You are upset that a platform is popular. That is the text of your argument as it is read. Change your argument if you aren't getting your point across. This is just deflection to protect your own conceptions. Try to actually disprove people next time instead of saying it's their fault for not understanding and leaving. It doesn't do anything other than waste your time. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamQuestion from the back? How would Valve be broken up? Would it be game developer and store front separated? How would that aid or assist in the purchasers? -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamYour first comment in this chain that I am responding to is > Excuse my frank speech but that's *absolute bollocks* and lacks any understanding at all of how a monopoly works. Which is not a definition and thus why I am asking. You have not yet defined it yet seem insistent that it is. And a whataboutism is when you bring up a parallel or comparable topic in an attempt to shift it. You brought up google in a discussion about Steam/Valve. That very much is. Having a large user base is not a monopoly. Hershey doesn't have a monopoly on chocolate for being the popular choice. People can and will at any time use competing products. -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamThis is a whataboutism. Is steam a monopoly and how? -
Debunking the grey market beyond SteamOnly if you are selling a steam key elsewhere, they ask you to treat them equivalently but that doesn't mean you can't do sales for your products on other platforms. It's a little weird cause it would be like buying an apple app on android to use on apple but apple doesn't get the 30% anymore so they ask you to at least price it about the same so people don't avoid buying from them completely.